[Talks given by the King's Headman and warriors of the Great Nation.]
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[Talks given by the King's Headman and warriors of the Great Nation.]
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Punishment for murders of white people committed by Indians to be administered. Indians seek peace with white people. Blamed A. McGillivray for seditious and murderous acts and advocated for his murder. Creeks offered to advise their people on the boundaries around the Oakmulgey and the St. Mary's rivers, discussed several land disputes.
year created
1786
month created
10
day created
22
author
sent from location
Georgia
in collection
in image
notable person/group
King's Headman
Creeks
Indian Nation
hostiles
white people
white settlers
Spaniards
Alexander McGillivray
Upper Creek
Richard Baily
John Francis
Lower Creek
master of Breath
Minon
notable location
Georgia
nation
land
Galphinkon
mouth of the Oakmulgey
St. Mary's
river
boundary
border
Oconee
Savannah
Ogusky
notable item/thing
treaty
agreement
notable idea/issue
settlement
peace
injury
murder
punishment
justice
poverty
hunger
Indian relations
document number
1786102290001
page start
1
transcription
A Talk deliverd by the Kings, Head men and Warriors of the Creek Nation, to the Commissioners for holding a Conference and Treaty with the sd Indians, by the General assembly of the State of Georgia near the mouth of Sholder bone on the Ocome Rover October 22d 1786~
Fathers, Friends, & Brothers
We the headmen have come to answer your Talk which we heard yesterday and to tell you that we are willing to give you Satisfaction for the Injuries our people have done to the State of Georgia- There are white people in the nation who have been the Occasion of those murders, they must and will be killd when we return to the nation and the Indians who were concernd must also be killd two Indians were killed when the mischief was done. The chief person who has been against you is Alexander McGilvery he is of a large family, therefore we will give him an Opportunity of going away quietly; but we must remove him if he chooses to live with the Spaniards he may go to them, or else he must also be killd. We do not mean to deceive you
as has been the case hitherto The talks and Letters that have been sent you by McGilverey as the voice of the nation are not so. They are of his own making and to such his private purposes and make our nation Poor- this is well known to those present who are from the upper Creeks
Brothers
The two particular men that will be first made examples of are Richard Baily and John Francis of the Keogleges -
We who are here are the chiefs of the lower Creeks, and are determind to do what we have now engaged. Afterwards we shall not be asham'd to look you in the face. According to your invitation we have come from our country and have suffer'd a great deal of fatigue, and hunger but; it is as Ordained by the master of Breath that we shou'd attend at all Treaties when calld upon our forfathers at their first meeting when the white hath war opend between them were friends
The master of Breath now hears what we say and what we say we mean to maintain. We were then in poverty and had nothing but our bows and arrows but now we are able to speak in friendship with each other -- He who made everything will we hope direct matters so that we may return home in peace and good will with you --
The master of Breath has settled us on the Land together He is like a man on the top of a house who hears all that we say, the white people have Learning, we have none- Still we hope to settle matters so as to be agreable to both parties we are all from one Mother.
Friends & Brothers
Agreeable to the Treaty held at Galphinton (and as soon as satisfaction is given) we shall bring down some of our people to attend and see the line mark'd from the mouth of the Oakmulgey to the Saint Marys Rivers
and the upper line also. Then when the Trees are mark'd each party will know how far to go. â
We first gave you Land from the Savanah to the Ogeechy Rivers then by the bad Conduct of our Young people we were obliged to give you to the Oconee for the safety of our women and children --
We might have given you Satisfaction by taking the lives of our people but we preferd giving you the Land and you shall enjoy it.
Tallisie for himself &c
You must excuse my handwriting in these papers, as it was wrote in the night in camp -
S Cosby
Colo. Minor
Talissee
Kings talk
Fathers, Friends, & Brothers
We the headmen have come to answer your Talk which we heard yesterday and to tell you that we are willing to give you Satisfaction for the Injuries our people have done to the State of Georgia- There are white people in the nation who have been the Occasion of those murders, they must and will be killd when we return to the nation and the Indians who were concernd must also be killd two Indians were killed when the mischief was done. The chief person who has been against you is Alexander McGilvery he is of a large family, therefore we will give him an Opportunity of going away quietly; but we must remove him if he chooses to live with the Spaniards he may go to them, or else he must also be killd. We do not mean to deceive you
as has been the case hitherto The talks and Letters that have been sent you by McGilverey as the voice of the nation are not so. They are of his own making and to such his private purposes and make our nation Poor- this is well known to those present who are from the upper Creeks
Brothers
The two particular men that will be first made examples of are Richard Baily and John Francis of the Keogleges -
We who are here are the chiefs of the lower Creeks, and are determind to do what we have now engaged. Afterwards we shall not be asham'd to look you in the face. According to your invitation we have come from our country and have suffer'd a great deal of fatigue, and hunger but; it is as Ordained by the master of Breath that we shou'd attend at all Treaties when calld upon our forfathers at their first meeting when the white hath war opend between them were friends
The master of Breath now hears what we say and what we say we mean to maintain. We were then in poverty and had nothing but our bows and arrows but now we are able to speak in friendship with each other -- He who made everything will we hope direct matters so that we may return home in peace and good will with you --
The master of Breath has settled us on the Land together He is like a man on the top of a house who hears all that we say, the white people have Learning, we have none- Still we hope to settle matters so as to be agreable to both parties we are all from one Mother.
Friends & Brothers
Agreeable to the Treaty held at Galphinton (and as soon as satisfaction is given) we shall bring down some of our people to attend and see the line mark'd from the mouth of the Oakmulgey to the Saint Marys Rivers
and the upper line also. Then when the Trees are mark'd each party will know how far to go. â
We first gave you Land from the Savanah to the Ogeechy Rivers then by the bad Conduct of our Young people we were obliged to give you to the Oconee for the safety of our women and children --
We might have given you Satisfaction by taking the lives of our people but we preferd giving you the Land and you shall enjoy it.
Tallisie for himself &c
You must excuse my handwriting in these papers, as it was wrote in the night in camp -
S Cosby
Colo. Minor
Talissee
Kings talk
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| [view document] (4 pages) | WFU08 (4 pages) | Collection: Digges-L'Enfant-Morgan Papers, mm 8201548 | Reel 1, Frames 56-58 |
Document names
| Type | Name | Location | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Author | King's Headman | Georgia | [n/a] |