[A talk from the Mad Dog and Big Warrior of the Tuckabatcet in behalf of the Creek Nation to James Seagrove]
Document 1795Advice from U.S. on peace between tribes to save land was good. Noted killing of Creek hunters by Chickasaws, Creeks will transport prisoners and property of guilty Indians to U.S. Fear that some Indians will ally with Cumberland settlers and militia against Chickasaws. Creek request that the U.S. remains peaceful, Creeks promise to remain peaceful with Cherokee Nation. Hopes to establish trade and peace.
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concluded your Sincere Friends & Brothers
(Signed, Mad Dog
Big Warrior C.
Suckalatches Upper Creeks
22d April 1793. —
[1793 / April written vertically in left margin]
[Address panel on exterior of folded letter, text rotated, partially legible]: [undecipherable]
A Talks from the Mad Dog & Big Warrior of the Suckalatches in behalf of the Creek nation to James Seagrove Esqr. Agent for Indian affairs
Father,
We received your talk which was delivered to us by our old Interpreter Mr Joseph Cornell, at the meeting of the Chiefs of the upper & lower Creeks at the Oatchickie-town, on the 1st of April 1793. Your Talk we could find no fault with, but found it true in every part; That it was of a very material consequence, and we the Head men, consulted each other and the Business for five days, and we find that it bears a greater weight with the majority of the Nation, more so than ever had been yet, and we are in great hopes that it will prove for the good of our Nation. We now send you a Talk as to our further Friends, hoping you will receive it, and do all you can to comply with our requests, for we do Know what has passed between us when we parted at the Capitists, and we are Sorry that it has not been in our power to fulfill our promises Sooner, but now we are in hopes that we shall be able to fulfill our promises. We now find that your advice was good, to save our Land, and let us live in peace as friends ought to do. Sir, You will be so kind as to take this into consideration, as our Nation is in [undecipherable]
this time, on account of the Chickasaws falling on our Hunters, and killing a number of them, which has prevented a number of our Head men from going down to you, but however, we Shall Send our Kings & Indians men with the Prisoners & the Reports, as many & as much as we can collect at this time, & desire you by the hand & talk with you, & their voice Shall be heard.
You are not unacquainted with the obstinacy of a parts of our People, & also the actions of our Nations, therefore you must excuse us if any part of the property Should not be sent at this time, & rest yourself assured that we Shall some endeavors to give it as soon as possible; but the bad advice given to our People by some ill disposed lying white People on our land has greatly obstructed our proceedings. As there has a dispute arose between us & the Chickasaws, Satisfaction is Sorry, & it is all we name for war is not our with. We are informed by the way of the Choctaws that the Cumberland people has promised them assistance with men, which we hope is not the Case; but for fear Some of those injured People may intermix with the Indians, we beg of you as Soon as you receive this, that you will forward an Express to Genl Blount & Genl Robertson at Cumberland, & likewise the frontiers of Georgia to restrain themselves in peace & content.
We have received a Talk by two Cherokees
which, just as the closing of our meeting, from the Agent in that Nation, also with a Talk from the Cherokies, which was very agreeable. We answered those Talks, & requested of the Agent to inform Genl Blount, Genl Robertson, & all their frontiers of our pacific intentions respecting Peace, that they may leave their Stocks, attend their Crops, & mix themselves in peace without any dread or fear from this Nation.
You will be so good as to recollect the promises you made us in the Capitists, that if any differences Should arise between us & many Nations of red People, our fathers the white People of the United States, Should not interfere but let them make head. Our Friend & Father do not think hard of my not attending you, likewise the [undecipherable] & Big Warrior, When that you have our reasons, you can't help excuse us; that is, our character & the Situation of our Nation obliges us to go the other way, but our hearts are with you, and the Same as when we parted with you at the Capitists, & Shall remain so until we See you & Shake Hands. The Big Warrior Says he has never forgot what you Said to him also parting.
My Friend and Brother, the greatest favor you can bestow us at this time, & it will prevent the eyes of our Blind People, is to open a Trade as quick as possible, which will be more convincing
proof, & it will be the means of gaining our point to Save our Lands and Nation.
Among the rest of our misfortunes our ancient utensils got burnt within the Public Square was destroyed, also our Drum. We do beg the favor of your goodness to Send us a Drum for the use of our Square, which we Stand in much need of at this time. We do now concluded your Sincere Friends & Brothers
(Signed, Mad Dog
Big Warrior C.
Suckalatches Upper Creeks
22d April 1793. —
Type
Autograph Letter Signed
Description
Advice from U.S. on peace between tribes to save land was good. Noted killing of Creek hunters by Chickasaws, Creeks will transport prisoners and property of guilty Indians to U.S. Fear that some Indians will ally with Cumberland settlers and militia against Chickasaws. Creek request that the U.S. remains peaceful, Creeks promise to remain peaceful with Cherokee Nation. Hopes to establish trade and peace.
Date
04/22/1795
Author
Recipient
Collection
Document number
1795042290001
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Notable persons
Mad Dog
Big Warrior
multiple
James Seagrove
Creek Nation
Agent for Indian Affairs
interpreter
Joseph Cornell
Upper Creek
Lower Creek
chiefs
Creek
Chickasaw
hunters
prisoners
Choctaw
Cumberland people
Indians
Governor William Blount
General Robertson
headmen
father
friend
hunters
Cherokee
red people
Notable locations
Tuckabatches
Tuckabatchee
Cumberland
Georgia
frontiers
Cussitas
public square
land
villages
territory
Notable items
talk
bad advice
dispute
stocks
crops
hunt
ancient utensils
drums

