Doubts of Funds from War Department Sufficiently Covering Debts
Document 1796Fleming doubted money sent from War Department would be sufficient to cover all debts contracted by the United States. Copy of letter from Rochefontaine to Gen. [].
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[Capt. Fleming
received [undecipherable] [undecipherable]
[undecipherable]]
West Point, Feby 18. 179[6]
Sir,
Your favors of the 15. 19. 27 &
30 ultimo I have received. I have sent
to Col. Fish my duplicate receipts for the 267
dollars, being the pay of the ordnance detachment for
Oct. Nov. & Decr 1795, and my duplicate receipts for
the three thousand dollars for contingent expenses
in the ordnance department at this post.
I now enclose you the ordnance de-
tachment's receipts for their Octr. Novr. & Decr. pay
amount 265 dollars & 33 cents. I also enclose you
a pay roll for last month's pay for said detachment.
The having to pay [undecipherable] Bliss & Corp. Peter
Davis on the expiration of their terms of service,
the former on the 25 of December & the latter on
the 10 of January, to prevent their being detained
on expenses here, obliged me to let them sign
written receipts. The printed receipt roll I received
the 23 ultimo. For uniformity the receipt rolls
I now send are all dated the 6th instant.
Sickness & death of my son, about 3 years
old, prevented my answering your favors sooner,
& has prevented my now having ready to send
to you a packet of vouchers.
There shall not be the least un-
necessary delay in closing my accounts.
I take the freedom of enclosing you for your
perusal, a copy of a small correspondence between
Colo. Rochefontaine & myself relative to the money
business. The source of which correspondence was
my finding after he took the immediate com-
mand of his regiment here, he had in view,
(by his requisitions on me for materials &c) to
prosecute the plan of building another house,
& having other work done for the accommodation
of himself & regiment, to the amount of, the head
carpenter told me, of about 5 or 6000 dollars.
As no estimates had been furnished by him
for the money, I conceived it my duty to write
to him a letter, of which No 1 is a copy — The
enclosed, No 2 is copy of his answer, & No 3 is my
reply to his answer. The original of the copy
of the letter from the Secretary of War, I referred
to in my letter No 1, was dated November the 21.
1795.
I am, with great respect,
Sir,
Your most obedient
Humble servant,
Go. Fleming. Jr.
Will: Simmons Esquire.
[Copy]
West Point, January 29. 1796.
Sir,
The preceding is a copy of a letter from the
hon. the Secretary of War, the 30th [undecipherable] I have received.
Immediately on receiving the original I shewed
it to Col. Howard, who told me he would report the ob-
jections [undecipherable] by his directions to the Secretary of War,
and asked, he would in future make estimates for him,
agreeably to his letter. I then reported to the Secretary
of War the work done here for the ordnance department
by my directions, in a letter from me, which Col. Rochefontaine
acknowledged the receipt of in his letter of which the fore-
going is a copy. The original I shewed you some days
ago, & informed him that I had shewed it Col. Howard,
and on my books, the amount of the money I had received from
the War department, &c. his answer was that he told
me 5000 dollars more would be sufficient to answer his pur-
poses, in completing the accommodations of the Artiller-
ists & Engineers. Since I received said 5000 dollars [I] have
had to draw for 1000 dollars which you brought me in [the]
3000 dollars that I was informed in a letter I received this
Post from the War department are in the hands of
Col. Fish of New York, for me. The 1000 dollars & 3000 dollars
I imagined would be about sufficient to half the debts
contracted for the United States to about the 1st instant.
I now doubt whether these four thousand dollars will be suf-
ficient. On estimates being sent to the Secretary of War,
& the money deposited in my hands with instructions
from him mentioning the use it is to be put to, I will
be responsible for what the Accountant mentions in
his letters to me accompanying public money — "the
due application of it." I have been under the very disag-
reeable necessity of borrowing, several times, considerably large
sums of money, to prevent the repairing of the quarters of
the artillerists & engineers from being stopped.
Estimates regularly furnished, & the money deposited
in my hands prior to my making purchases of the ma-
terials & hiring of the workmen would have prevented
my being in such embarrasments. As Col. Howard, at
times seemed to contemplate the having your regiment
quartered & the tavern handed by the man, to
save them here; it may be he has not sent an estimate
of what it would cost.
I have the honor to be, with great
respect & esteem,
Sir
your most obedient
Humble Servant.
G. Fleming
Col. Rochefontaine,
Comr of the Artillery
& Engineers — West Point.
The following is a copy of a letter from Col. Rochefontaine
to Go. Fleming in answer to the above.
West Point, January 30. 1796.
Sir,
I received your letter of yesterday with the copy of a letter
of the Secretary of War of the 21st November 1795, by which
he desires you to send him the details of the work per-
formed with the money expended, and to have in future
estimates of the objects to which appropriations are re-
quested. I had read this letter I had seen before, and at the time
I did not contemplate it as having any other object but to
throw some order in future expenditures, and to procure
in the mean time some information to the Secretary of
War upon the former proceedings — as to what has been
done, I have nothing to do with it. Major Howard had his
instructions from the Secretary to do it, & he will give
it an account himself as to the estimate of what is to be
done, I will do it as soon as I have some documents to regulate
my calculations upon: a powder Magazine I conceive ne-
cessary, and a sort of Military stores, either by repairing
the old one, or by erecting a new one. The last estimate given
are much better calculated than myself for the other,
& I will [undecipherable] the price of Bricks by the thousand
brought to Fort Clinton, the price of Lime, the price
[undecipherable], Scantling by the thousand & by days Labourer —
the general price of lumber will also be requisite, if you
can give me what it will be obliged to you.
I am with great Esteem,
Sir
your obedient.
The following is a copy of a letter from Go. Fleming to
Col. Rochefontaine in answer to the above.
West Point, Augt. 12. 1796.
Sir,
Your favors of the 30 ultimo received the 31. The primary
motive of my addressing you by letter No [undecipherable] ultimo
was to give you a full idea how matters stood
here, in the money line, relative to the accommodations
in your regiment, on the day you took the command,
& bring Col. Howard's next to my claim to get the neces-
sity of your money [undecipherable] estimates for the Secretary [undecipherable]
there, a prelude to his letter, for money to be forwarded to me in
time, for the purchase of materials & employment of
persons employed by your directions after your having taken
the immediate command of your regiment here.
I paid last summer for good hard Bricks 50/ per
delivered at the [undecipherable] landing, & they have since
cost about 6/ [undecipherable] to cart them from said landing to
Fort Clinton. Good slacked Lime I paid last summer
1/6 a bushel for, delivered at said landing — I imagine
it would cost about 2/ a bushel to cart it to said fort.
I paid Masons & Bricklayers 10/ a day — Carpenters 10/ a
day, and for house frame timber about [undecipherable] hundred
feet superficial measure. The estimates for the
repairs of the ordnance and military stores were fur-
nished the Secretary of War with the beginning of last
April — he transmitted to me the money for the repairing
of them, but the materials that had been purchased with said
money, & the workmen I had engaged to repair said store
house, Col. Howard [undecipherable] & applied to the use of the Art-
illerists & Engineers quarters — informing me he was to
make a finish of the repairing of said quarters in time,
which enable me to repair the ordnance department
store houses before it would be too late in the season.
No estimate has been sent, however, relative to a powder
magazine to be built. — The head carpenter handed
me an estimate this morning of materials for said
house. I asked him to make a calculation how much
money it would amount to, & then deliver it to you,
if his calculation meets with your concurrence, on your
sending the estimate to me, I will forward it to the
War Department, & request the money to be immedi-
ately sent to me.
I have the honor to be, with great
respect.
Sir
Your most obedient
Humble Servant.
Col. Rochefontaine
Com. of the Corps of
Artillerists & Engineers,
West Point.
Type
Autograph Letter Signed
Description
Fleming doubted money sent from War Department would be sufficient to cover all debts contracted by the United States.
Copy of letter from Rochefontaine to Gen. [].
Date
01/24/1796
Author
Recipient
Sent from
West Point
Document number
1796012490201
Page start
5
Note
Enclosed in Fleming to Simmons, 02/18/1796.
Notable persons
Stephen Rochefontaine
George Fleming
Notable locations
West Point
West Point

