Captain Chapin discusses Indian affairs with Pickering
Document 1795Letter, informs re New York treaty with Oneida Indians; discusses Wayne's campaign; mentions hostile Western Indians; discusses rumors of campaign against Six Nations.
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Canandaigua Augt 19th 1795
Sir,
Immediately after I wrote you on the 21st ulto I proceeded to Onida, part of the Commissioners were there & the others came in a short time.
I explained to them the Indians the contents of your letter, which they heard with attention. The Commissioners then made known to the Indians the business which brought them there, that they might make their lands more productive to them &c — they offered them four thousand dollars annually for the land they would wish to purchase, and reserve to the Indians Ninety eight thousand acres.
The Indians conferred on the offer day after day without returning any answer, some were for selling as they wished to enjoy the money they should receive annually, for in a short time they would be off the Stage and it would be left for their posterity to enjoy; others for reasons I had impressed upon them did not incline to sell and on the nineth days confederation made their reply to the Commissioner in telling, Gend Schuyler what fine things he had promised them in the beginning of the War; that as they wished in in
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hereafter they should never want for nothing and as they had formerly got their lands for a trifle and as they came out to do them good they wished they would pay them the just value, and the Sum they had offered them was not equal to the value of their land.
The Indians insisted to know what they would give for six miles square, the Commissioner offered them $95 Drs— The Inds asked $00 Drs the Commissioner told them they had no authority to give them so much & if they would treat no other way the council fire must be covered— The Inds replied that if they would not come to their terms the fire must be covered & the business ended, as the fault was on their part and the blame lay upon them. The next morning I set off on my return to Canandaigua and left the Commissioner at Onida— Jacob Reed had informed me that the Commissioner stayed two days after and made further proposals, but to no effect and left them without doing any business.
I am informed by the Indians they are invited to hold a General Council at Buffalo and I expect by the invitation originated from Fort Niagara as a party from thence
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wanted to go to Niagara about three weeks ago & they tell me that Govt Simcoe told them that they ought to come oftener, & the reason they had not received more presents of late was their own fault as they did not come for them, but if they came this fall they should have clothing in abundance and what has not been made up to them for years past shall then be delivered, and that their minds must continue strong for their good State & the King, and not refuse to take what they can get from the Americans as presents.
I wish you Sir to have the goodness to answer my letter I have written you and especially that part which mentions more money as my circumstances are such as will not of [strikethrough: surpassing] private interest too much, to that of the public.
I have endeavored to make use of the strictest economy, but [strikethrough: neglect of] necessary supplies and various expenses which I am obliged to expend cannot be done without considerable cost.
The Indians are all peaceable and contented— I hear by two Inds from Grand River that Capt: Brant has returned and part of the Hostile Nations have concluded a treaty of peace with Gent Wayne— The Inds have frequently heard Gend Wayne threatens an expedition against the Inds to the
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I have told them to the contrary as they have no reason to believe such a report.
I am Sir with great
Respect & Esteem
Your Obdt Servt
I. Chapin
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[Copy of a letter to Col. McHenry Augt 19th 1795]
Type
Contemporary Copy of Letter
Description
Letter, informs re New York treaty with Oneida Indians; discusses Wayne's campaign; mentions hostile Western Indians; discusses rumors of campaign against Six Nations.
Date
08/19/1795
Author
Recipient
Collection
Document number
1795081940001
Page start
1
Note
Cited in Pickering to Chapin, 09/12/1795.
Notable persons
Timothy Pickering
Captain Israel Chapin
Gen. Wayne
Capt. Brant
Gov. Simcoe
Jacob Reed
Gen. Schuyler
Notable locations
Canandaigua
Grand River
Ft. Erie
Niagara
Canandaigua
Oneida
Notable items
Gen. Wayne threaten an expedition against the Six Nations but I have told them to the contrary
no reason to believe such a report
part of the hostile nations have concluded a treaty of peace with Gen. Wayne
endeavored to make use of their strident economy
necessary supplies and various expences
considerable cost
indians are all peaceable
invited to go to Niagara
clothiing in abundance
refuse to take what they can get from the Americans as presents
commisssioners stayed two days after and made further proposals
informed by the indians they are arrived to hold a general council at Ft. Erie
beginning of the war
if they would remain peaceable they whould never want for nothing
pay them the just value
sum they had offered was not equal to the value of their land
indians insisted to know what they would give for six miles square
commissioners told them they had no authority to give them so much
if they would treat no other way the council fire must be covered
fault was on their part and the blame lay on them
explained to the indians the contents of you letter
heard with attention
commission then made known to the indians the business which brought them there
make their lands more productive
offered them four thousand dollars annually for the land they would wish to purchase
reserve the indians ninety eight thousand acres
indians considered on the offer day after day without returning an answer
some were for selling as they wished to enjoy the money
posterity
reasons I had impressed upon them did not incline to sell
I wrote you
proceeded to Oneida
part of the commission were there

