On the keel wood for frigate; salting of oak wood; and whether oak wood is preferable to live oak
Document 1795Secretary of War Pickering discusses use of deadwood to be laid over the frigate keel; use of salting to harden the oak; and whether common oak will do, since live oak is so hard to procure. In a post script, asks if common oak can be used. If not, how long to obtain live oak and how will this affect the frigate construction time-line.
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[Josbn Williams
Secretary of War]
Boston Octob 30th 1790
Sir
Agreeably to your request I enclose you an estimate of a frigate of nine hundred tons, and believe it to be not far wide of what will be the real cost; but as the circumstances would not admit of my being too open in my enquiries, it may vary a little. The cost of the guns and warlike stores you can form a better judgment of than myself. The timber &c should be cut in the fall of the year as that would add much to its duration. Should any further enquiries be necessary, or any services that I can render be acceptable, shall be happy in being favored with your commands, and have the honor to be &c.
Estimate accompanying the above.
[Estimate
900 Tons]
An estimate of a ship of 900 tons.
900 tons at £5.15 . . . . £5175
38 tons Iron . . at £25 . . 950
Blacksmith's bill at 22/ p hand 836
2 tons Oakum at £24 . . . 48
26 barrells Pitch and Tar . . 23.8 } £7032.8
43 bolls Duck No 1 .
8 do . . . No 2 .
7 do . . . . 3
22 do . . . . 4
brought over £7032.8.
11 bolls Duck No 5 .
38 do . . . 6
7 do . . . 7
136 . . . at 60/ . . £408.—.—
130 lb Twines . . at 2/ . . . 13.—.—
1880 lb bolt Rope . at 8d . . 62.13.4
Making Sails . . at 10/ p bolt 68.—. — 531.13.4
Anchors 13000 lb . at 8d . . 325
Blockmaker's bill . . . . . . . 200
Joyner's bill . . . . . . . . . 200
Carver's bill . . . . . . . . . 80
Head builders . . . . . . . . 75
Mastmaker's bill . . . . . . 350
Boats . . . . . . . . . . . . 80 . . 1310.—.
Rigging including Cables 110 to at £48) 1920.—.
Painter's bill . . . . . . . 100
Rigger's bill . . . . . . . 150
Shipchandler's bill . . . . 200
Contingent Bill . . . . . . 150 600.—.
£, 11.414.1.4
Estimate of the cost of a frigate of forty guns, computed at 140 feet keel, and 42 feet beame equal to 1300 tons.
Shipwright's bill for the hull of best white oak, & of live oak & red cedar where necessary, and with locust trunnells finished to a cleat at 23.33 Dollars.
Smith's bill for iron work including Anchors estimated at 6½ p lb at 11.33
Ship Joyner's bill including the materials . . . . . . . . . . 2.53
Boat builder's bill for one pinnace, one barge, one long boat, one jolly boat . . 46
Painter & Plumber's bill . . . . . . 93
Carver's bill . . . . . . . . . . . 60
Cooper's bill estimating water casks for six months . . . . . . . . . . 7.66
Blockmaker's bill . . . . . . . . . 1.—
Mustmaker's bill . . . . . . . . . 2.66
Rigging including tables and spare cordage, computed at 60 p Cwt and Rigging bill p estimate . . . . . . . 6.66
Sails including spare sails and sailmaker's bill p Est. No 3 . . . . . 3.18
Chandler's bill for small stores . . . 2.66
Suppose a Ship of 1300 tons . . . at p ton 56.80 — 73.840
Ordnance Stores
30 cannon of 24 pounders to weigh about 48 C.wt at £20 p ton, carriage 18¢ . 5340
6 do of 9 pounders to weigh about 18 C.wt Carriages &c. at p ton . . 408
4 Howitzers, 8 inches, brass . . . 3840
100 Muskets . . . . 10o . . . 1000
30 pair Pistols . . . 8.0s . 240
120 Cutlasses . . . . . 1 . . . 120
200 pounds Powder 38.200 15¢ . 5730
150 rounds round shot 101 C.wt 2.66 . 269.34
50 do Grape & double headed 60-h 240.—
200 eight inch Shells . . . . . . 240
100 Handgranades . . . . . . 50
200 musket & Pistol ball 20z.wt 146.66 . . . 17.624
Provisions
6 months provisions complete p Est. B . . 7.495.68
Ds 98.959.68
[No 2]
Pay or Wages of Officers and Crew of a frigate of 40 guns—
| | No / each. | Rate of pay per month | Total |
|---|---|---|---|
Captain . . . . . . | 1 | 60.— | 60.—
Lieutenant . . . . | 3 | 30.— | 90.—
Master . . . . . . | 1 | 25.— | 25.—
Chaplain . . . . . | 1 | 25.— | 25.—
Master's Mates . . | 2 | 10.— | 20.—
Midshipmen . . . . | 6 | 7.50 | 45.—
Schoolmaster . . . | 1 | 7.50 | 7.50
Captain's Clerk . . | 1 | 7.50 | 7.50
Quartermasters . . | 3 | 7.— | 21.—
Quartermaster's Mates . . . . | 3 | 6.50 | 19.5[0]
Boatswain . . . . . | 1 | 11.— | 11.—
Boatswain's Mates . | 1 | 7.— | 7.—
Yeoman of the sheets | 2 | 6.50 | 13.—
Coxswain . . . . . | 1 | 6.50 | 6.50
Master Sailmaker . | 1 | 8.50 | 8.50
Sailmaker's mate . | 1 | 6.50 | 6.50
Sailmaker's Crew . | 1 | 6.— | 6.—
Gunner . . . . . . | 1 | 11.— | 11.—
Gunner's mate . . . | 1 | 6.50 | 6.50
Yeoman of the Powder Room | 1 | 6.50 | 6.50
Quarter Gunners . . | 10 | 6.— | 60.—
Armourer . . . . . | 1 | 7.— | 7.—
Carpenter . . . . . | 1 | 11.— | 11.—
Carpenter's Mates . | 1 | 8.50 | 8.50
Carpenter's Crew . | 5 | 6.— | 30.—
Purser . . . . . . | 1 | 11.— | 11.—
Steward . . . . . . | 1 | 6.— | 6.—
Cook . . . . . . . | 1 | 6.— | 6.—
Surgeon . . . . . . | 1 | 25.— | 25.—
Surgeon's Mates . . | 2 | 12.50 | 25.—
Master at Arms . . | 1 | 7.50 | 7.50
Corporal . . . . . | 1 | 7.— | 7.—
Trumpeter . . . . . | 1 | 6.— | 6.—
Midshipmen ordinary . . . . .}
Cook's male . . . . . . . . .}
Yeoman of the Boatswain's Store room}
Dumber . . . . . . . . . . . .} 130 | 5.— | 650.—
Cooper . . . . . . . . . . . .}
Able Seaman . . . . . . . . . .}
Captain's Cook . . . . . . . . .}
Ordinary Trumpeter . . . . . . .}
Ordinary Seamen . . . . . . . . | 131 | 4.— | 524.—
Marines — Lieutenant . . . . . | 1 | 22 | 22.—
Serjeant . . . . . | 1 | 5.— | 5.—
Corporal . . . . . | 1 | 4.— | 4.—
Drum . . . . . . . | 1} | 3.— | 6.—
Fife . . . . . . . | 1}
Privates . . . . . | 20 | 3.— | 60.—
Ds 1884.—
Twelve months pay is Ds 22608)
[No 3]
Estimate of twelve months provision for 350 men, Crew of a ship of 40 guns.
| Quality | per week one man | for 52 weeks | 350 men 52 weeks | Price Dolls cts | Total Dolls cts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Bread or Flour | lb 7.— | 364 | Cwt 9r lb 1137.1.26 | 2.40 | 2727.97
Beer | Galls 7 | 364 | 3981 barrels | 1.065 | 4246.40
Beef | lb 4 | 208 | 369 barls | 8.— | 2952.—
Pork | lb 2 | 104 | 185 barls | 12.— | 2220.—
Peas | Quart 1 | 52 | 568 bushs | 0.066 | 378.66
Oatmeal | Busl 1 | 156 | 853 bushs | 1.— | 853.—
Butter | ounces 6 | lb 197½ | 6825 lb | 0.10 | 682.50
Cheese | ounces 12 | lb 39 | 13961 | 0.066 | 930.73
Ds 14991.—[/100]
[No 4.]
Estimate of the annual expence of one frigate of 40 guns—
Wages or Pay of Officers and Crew for 12 months p Estimate No 2 . . . . Dolls Ct 22608.—
Ordinaries for renewals of sails, digging, repairs, heaving down, small stores, ordnance stores, pilotage &c . . . . . . . . . . 6500.—
Provisions for 12 months p acct No 3 . . 14991.26
Ds 44.099.26
[No 5.]
Indent of Sails and Sailmaker's bills of a frigate of 140 feet keel 42 feet beam viz.
2 Main sails, 2 fore sails, 2 forestay sails, 1 main stay sail, 2 mizon stay sails &
2 mizons . . . 3645 Yds No 1 . at 2/ . . £379.13.9
2 main top sails, 2 fore top sails, 1 sprit sail 2638 Yds No 2 at 2/ . . . . 263.16.—
2 Jibbs, 2 main top stay sails, and spanker 1170 Yds No 4, at 1/10 . . 105.4.10
1 mizon top sail 315 Yds No 3 at 1/11 . . 30.3.9
2 lower steering sails, 2 main top gallant sails and two middle stay sails 1458 Yds No 5 at 1/9 . . . . . . . 127.7.—
2 fore top gallant sails, sprit sail, top sail, mizon top mast stay sail, & 3 top mast steering sails 1540 Yds No 6 at 1/8 . . 128.6.8
Three top gallant steering sails, mizon top gallant sail, three royals, main and mizon top gallant stay slaels, 828 Yds No 7 at 1/1 . . 65.11.—
Spare canvas . . . . . . . . . . 200.—.—
Making the above sails . . . . . . 216.—.—
300 lb Twines, at 2/6 . . . . . . 37.10.—
£1531.13.—
Equal to . . . Dollars 4137.73
[No 6]
Inventory of Rigging of a ship of 140 feet keel, and 42 feet beam.
| | | | C | 9 | 14 | [3] |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
2 Cables . . 125 fathoms each of 19 inches | 187 | 2 | — | —
2 do . . 115 do . . 18 | 152 | 1 | — | —
4 do . . 110 do . . 17 | 264 | 3 | 18 | 12
2 do . . 102 do . . 16 | 108 | 3 | 5 | 12
2 do . . 120 do . . 15 | 102 | 2 | — | —
2 do . . 120 do . . 12 | 72 | — | — | —
2 do . . 120 do . . 10 | 50 | — | — | —
2 do . . 110 do . . 8) | 29 | 1 | 9 | 6
2 do . . 130 do . . 7 | 26 | 2 | 4 | 12
4 do . . 130 do . . 6 | 39 | — | — | —
1 do . . 130 do . . 5½ | 32 | 3 | 4 | 9
2 do . . 130 do . . 5 | 13 | 2 | 4 | 11
2 do . . 130 do . . 4½ | 10 | 3 | 24 | 8)
Main Shrouds . 225 . . . . 10 | 46 | 3 | 14 | —
Fore Shrouds . 200 . . . . 9 | 37 | 2 | 11 | 12
Main Stay . . 18 . . . . 17 | 10 | 3 | 10 | 3
Fore Stay . . 17 . . . . 16½ | 9 | 2 | 15 | 10
Main Spring Stay 19 . . . 13 | 6 | 2 | 21 | 3
Fore do do 45 . . 12 | 4 | 2 | 0 |
Mizon Shrouds 120 . . . . 8 | 17 | 1 | 9 | 6
do Stay . 18) . . . 12 | 5 | 1 | 16 | 11
Mizon Spring Stay 16 . . . 8 | 2 | 0 | 14 | 14
Main topmast Shrouds 140 . . 6 | 10 | 2 | — | —
do back Stay 130 . . 8 | 17 | 1 | 9 | 6
do Stay . 26 . . . 9 | 4 | 1 | 15 | 6
do Spring do 2½ . . 7 | 2 | 1 | 22 | 7
Fore topmast Shrouds 135 . . 6 | 10 | — | 14 | —
do back Stay 120 . . 7½ | 14 | — | 7 | —
do Stay . 26 . . . 8½ | 3 | 3 | 18 | 5
do Spring do 24 . . 7 | 2 | 1 | 22 | 7
Lower Sheets . 200 . . . . 5 | 10 | 1 | 18 | 12
Main tacks . 26 . . . 9 in the whole | 4 | 1 | 15 | 6
Fore do . 25 . . . 8 do | 3 | 1 | 9 | 6
2 Buoy ropes . 60 each 8 | 16 | — | — | —
2 do do . 40 do 7 . | 8 | — | 18 | 11
12 Coils . . . 80 do 4½ | 40 | 2 | — | —
12 do . . . do do 4 | 38 | — | — | 6
12 do . . . do do 3½ | 28 | 3 | 15 | 8)
12 do . . . do do 3½ | 24 | 2 | 14 | 6
12 do . . . do do 3½ | 29 | 3 | — | —
16 do . . . do do 3 | 24 | — | — | —
20 do . . . do do 2¾ | 26 | 2 | 24 | 12
20 do . . . do do 2¾ | 21 | 1 | 5 | 12
18 do . . . do do 2½ | 19 | 1 | 5 | 10
Type
Letterbook
Description
Secretary of War Pickering discusses use of deadwood to be laid over the frigate keel; use of salting to harden the oak; and whether common oak will do, since live oak is so hard to procure. In a post script, asks if common oak can be used. If not, how long to obtain live oak and how will this affect the frigate construction time-line.
Date
01/17/1795
Author
Recipient
Document number
1795011700012
Page start
1
Notable persons
Tench Francis
Timothy Pickering
Joshua Humphreys
Penrose
War Department
Navy Department
Secretary of War
Naval constructor
Notable locations
Georgia
Philadelphia
War Department
Notable items
deadwood
live oak
common oak
frigate keel
salting of wood
timber

