Answer of W. Payne to James Seagrove
Document 1793Payne tells Seagrove that the has heard his talk; cannot answer all on this day. Will answer next day after consulting his people. Says that his Indians don't know so much as the white people. Has been here [Colerain] for some days. White people have used us like brothers. Will give a talk tomorrow.
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The Answer of Mr Payne the Great
Semanolia and Lochaway King; to
James Seagrove agent of Indian Affairs —
delivered at Colerain on the River St. Mary;
in Georgia, 22d May 1793.
Father, Brother & Friend,
I have opened my Ears and heard your Talk, your Talk is a good Talk, but I cannot answer all you have said to day, I must consult my people first, and then I will give you my Talk tomorrow.
We Indians dont know so much as the idle people, I have han here some days, and my people, and your people have used us like Brothers, and as I told you before I will give you a talk tomorrow.
Thursday 23d. May 1793
I am going to talk with you my Father, Brother and friend, The Sun is high and I am near parting with you, but I shall give you my talk first. The Great above made us all and we are one people, I speak to you as having one father and one mother.
I have been told by our old people that the great Water covered all the world, and drowned all the people, except a few which was in a house on the water, whether this is the place when the house was I do not know.
I was told the Great Water divided the World in seven different parts, and this part (America) was given to the Red people, and when the White people first came to this part, the
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Description
Payne tells Seagrove that the has heard his talk; cannot answer all on this day. Will answer next day after consulting his people. Says that his Indians don't know so much as the white people. Has been here [Colerain] for some days. White people have used us like brothers. Will give a talk tomorrow.
Date
05/22/1793
Recipient
Sent from
Colerain, St Mary's River Georgia
Document number
1793052290055
Page start
302
Note
This document is enclosed in a statement relative to the South Western frontiers, as connected with the state of Georgia and Creek Indians, the south Western territory of the United States and the Cherokees submitted to the House of Representatives on December 4, 1793. This document is an integral part of [Public Reports] and other communications of the Secretary of War, 12/99/1793.
Notable persons
W. Payne
Simanola
Seminole
Lochaway King
James Seagrove, Creek Indian Agent
Notable locations
St. Mary's River
Georgia
Colerain
Florida
Notable items
Treaty of New York

