Minutes of a conversation between Knox and Spanish commissioner
Document 1792Document, minutes of conversation with Spanish commissioners for his Catholic majesty; discusses Indians; discusses death penalty.
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6. Sep 1792 [undecipherable]
[undecipherable struck-through line]
Minutes of a conversation, which passed between the
Secretary of State and Don Joseph Yza[undecipherable], and Dr. Joseph Jum[undecipherable],
commissionary of his Catholic Majesty, this 6th day of
Sept. 1792.
The Secretary having made the said Commissary
to a family dinner, the conversation was naturally
introduced by themselves about Bowles. They had [↑and↑] they had
[undecipherable] it [undecipherable] to be alleged
he was [undecipherable] at last; I enquired whether they would
[undecipherable] of sending them to the [nation?] — They said
they did not know how they intended to —
I mentioned Mr Hammond having declared [the?]
[undecipherable] on the behalf of [his?] [undecipherable] army, [undecipherable]
on authority to[ward] Bowles — They said they had
[undecipherable], [undecipherable] but there [those?]
those who did not [undecipherable] the idea of his [undecipherable] being
given him [undecipherable], his own [undecipherable] at the [undecipherable]
by the [undecipherable].
[I?] mentioned to them, that there [was?] one [undecipherable]
[undecipherable] the other point [of?] [undecipherable]
[to?] the [undecipherable]. The [undecipherable] they had [undecipherable] —
cannot understood [on?] — [undecipherable] man on
[for?] [a?] [undecipherable] to [Bowles?] but Knew nothing about
[Mellbury?/Wellbury?]
I mentioned to them that a [near?] [undecipherable]
had [sprung?] up among [the?] [Creek?] [undecipherable] the [undecipherable] [Simms?]
[Appomazpe?] [agent?], and a [Copy?] of the [legend?]
of their [undecipherable], and that he nine [undecipherable] [including?]
that [undecipherable] — but however he [undecipherable] is on going
[uniform?] — but however [undecipherable] — [undecipherable]
[undecipherable] as [be?] [undecipherable] on [undecipherable]
any [authority?] [to?] [undecipherable] for he [to?] [exhaust?] the
other [undecipherable]
knowing not [undecipherable] him [the?] [undecipherable] [actually?] [take?] —
[treaty?] made with the Creeks at New York
[having?] [taken?] [that?] [undecipherable] the [undecipherable] Mr Hammond
and [that?] [undecipherable] for he [had?] [undecipherable]
[undecipherable] the [matter?] to New York —
[to?] [undecipherable] him — [and?] [after?] the [late?] [undecipherable]
[undecipherable] generally [undecipherable] him [whether?] [any?]
the [undecipherable] [something]
[K]new of [our?] [undecipherable] — They [replied?] they
[a]dopted, [undecipherable] Mr [Jefferson?] [now?] and [here?]
[b]eing of [him?] [that?] Mr Jefferson
had [would?] [go?] to [them?] [undecipherable] [said?]
[when?] [with?] [them?] [undecipherable] there they [Meant?] [undecipherable]
[to?] have — but they did not concur the [fund?]
[from?] [the?] [undecipherable] going — [and?] [there?] [undecipherable]
[B]eing [there?] [have?] any more but there [undecipherable]
The [undecipherable] [then?] [undecipherable] [agreements?] as [when?]
for [of?] them [some?] [must?] any [undecipherable]
[In?] the ter[ritory?] of New York they [concerned?]
[with?] [the?] [decreed?] he [would?] be Known in the
ordinary channels of the [C]ommunication
That the [M]orning [government?] have
[from?] [some?] [exception?] to [a?] treaty made with the
Cherokees in the year [17]06, wherein [he?] —
the [Priority?] of [Alabama?] [undecipherable] and Mr M[c]hood[?]
[having?] [adopted?] the [m]atter of the [n]ation
as [compared?] to the Indians — That the
[a]ffairs of the [M]ilitia being [a]ppealable
[for?] [governing?], and that the [function?] would
[have?] [once?] [have?] [a?] [public?] [to?] [executed?] by
Those of Capt [Atmen?] on the [Sponge?]
placed to them was unknown, it might be
[in?] a [regiment?] [of?] [Fleuro?] [battalion?], where the
Spanish government had lately authorized
Governor Condorcelet of New Orleans, to
[g]ather under the hills of the
[A]lgerne — the Mississippi — That a
Capt [Whitley?] who was [from?] in New York
about the year 1769, was a [Colonel?] [undecipherable]
[one?] of the [B]atalio[n?] [undecipherable]
in the service of the Spanish army — That
Capt [Thornton?] for [Colonel?] [Wooster?] [was?] [above?] —
Capt [Atkins?] [opinion?] —
[G]iven to Mr [Leupiner?], [Ellis?] [one?]
Governor [Linesdays?] of Costa [undecipherable] — [that?] [pars?]
[in?] army [undecipherable] — They [offered?] [that?] them
[were?] Capt [undecipherable] [afraid?] I was to — Colonel [an?] [person?] to
[b]efore [government?] [brought?] [undecipherable] [have?] [here?] — That
Type
Autograph Letter Signed
Description
Document, minutes of conversation with Spanish commissioners for his Catholic majesty; discusses Indians; discusses death penalty.
Date
09/06/1792
Author
Repository
Collection
Document number
1792090600201
Page start
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Notable persons
Henry Knox
Seagrove
Governor Quefudas
Governor Condorelet
Jefferson
Connelly
Hammond
Bowles
Don Joseph Viar
Don Joseph Jendarme
Notable locations
Mississippi [river]
United States
New York
New Orleans
Notable items
treaty made by the US with the Choctaws
Spaniards
Creeks
Spanish agent
army
Indians
inquired whether they would find cause of putting him to death
minutes of a conversation between the Secretary of War
commissioners of his Catholic Majesty
friendly dinner
conversation was naturally introduced by themselves
minutes of conversation

