ENCLOSED: Outcome of Treaty Negotiations with Indians
Document 1788Letter, describes treaty negotiations with Indians. No changes to boundary.
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In fixing a boundary between the United States and the Indian tribes, instead of the East and West line mentioned in your Instructions, you will endeavour to establish an East and West line as far Norths as the completion of the completion of the forty first degree of North Latitude.
In your negotiations with the Indians, you will make immediate payments as far as you shall have monies in hand; but in case you shall find it necessary to engage any considerable part of the said [strikethrough: disbursement] funds you are to stipulate that the payments thereof be made in two or three equal annual instalments the first to be as late in the year 1789, as can be obtained.
Chas Thomson Secy
New Yorke, May 2d 1793
Sir
I have the honor to lay before you the Treaties concluded, in pursuance of the instructions received from Congress on the twenty sixth of October 1792 and second of July 1792, with several of the Indian nations in January last— That they were not presented at an earlier period was owing in part to my own indisposition — to the severity of the Winter which rendered the communication
by the Ohio, for a long time impracticable— and to the circumstance that the last Congress did not assemble after it was in my power to have sent them forward.
With the treaties I beg leave to submit the minutes of the proceedings at the different meetings after the Nations were assembled, and I have added to them, by way of appendix, all the letters and messages that passed between them and me prior to their assembling— These were communicated to the Secretary at War from time to time, and tho' they will, no doubt, be submitted by him to your consideration, I thought it best, as they form a considerable part of the transactions, to annex them in that way, that the whole might be seen together.
By the instructions of July the second, I was directed to endeavour at extending the northern boundary, as far north as the completion of the forty first degree of North Lattitude— Besides that it would have been extremely difficult to have made the Indians comprehend how that was to be ascertained, I found that any attempts to extend the limits at that time would be very ill received, if not defeat entirely the settling a peace with them; it was therefore not proposed, and the boundaries remain as settled at the former Treaties except the rectifying an Error about the portage at the Miamis Village.
The negotiation was both tedious and tiresome, and for a long time had an unpromising aspect, but it came at last to as favorable an issue as could have been expected— and I trust will be attended with consequences friendly to the frontier parts of the United States— There are however several nations on the Wabash, and the Rivers which empty themselves into it, that are all dispersed, and from whom there is reason to suspect that a part of the Frontier of Virginia, and the settlements forming on the Miamis, will meet annoyance— indeed that they have not been disturbed during the Winter was not expected, either by me or the Chiefs of the Nations who met me at Fort Harmar. The Wyandots did appoint persons to go to them and inform them of the result of the Treaty, and insist upon their desisting from further Hostilities which may have some effect in preserving the late tranquility.
The claim of the Wyandot Nation to the lands reserved to the Shawanese was strongly insisted upon by them and to be made an Article of the Treaty— to that I could not consent: but to satisfy them, and that it might be kept in remembrance, it is inserted at the bottom of it, by way of memorandum. It seems this is a claim that
has always been held up, and the reason it was so much insisted on at this time, they said was, that they were sure that the Shawanoes, and Cherokees incorporated with them would continue to give us trouble— That it could not be expected to be borne with much longer, that they would be driven out of the Country, and then it would be claimed and held by the United States by right of conquest— they further added that, if the Shawanese continue their depredations, they would, themselves drive them off— They also pressed that a Fort should be taken by the United States at the Miami Villages as the surest means to overawe the Nations on the Wabash— It is certainly well situated for that purpose, and would command the greatest part of the Indian trade— As it was very uncertain whether Congress might approve of such a measure, as a Post so far as I find would with difficulty be supplied, and we in no readiness to carry it into execution if it should be approved, I desired them to consider well whether it could be done without a contest with the Indians who live there— and whether, in that case, there was not danger of they themselves being involved thro' the ungovernahleness of their young men— They acknowledged that they thought there was danger of both, but promised to send some of their principal men to the Miamis and prepare them for receiving a garrison peaceably, and to
give me notice in the Spring.
The reason why the Treaties were made separately with the six Nations and the Wyandots and other westerly tribes was a jealousy that subsisted between them, and which I was not willing to lessen by appearing to consider them as one people— they do not so consider themselves, and I am persuaded their general confederacy is entirely fictitious, indeed it would not be very difficult if circumstances required it to set them at deadly variance.
The great lengths of time that elapsed between the appointed periods for the meeting, and that at which the Indians assembled, during which, numbers of them were constantly going and coming, has increased the expences in the article of provisions considerably, the utmost possible economy however, was used tho' the whole of the business, and in transacting it, I flatter myself with meeting the approbation of Congress.
With the utmost Respect,
I have the honor to be,
Sir,
Your most obedient
and
Humble Servants
Ar St Clair
The President of the United States.
Type
Author's Letterbook Copy
Description
Letter, describes treaty negotiations with Indians. No changes to boundary.
Date
05/02/1788
Author
Recipient
Sent from
New York
Collection
Document number
1788050290001
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Notable persons
Charles Thomson
Arthur St. Clair
Indian Nation
Indians
tribes
chiefs
Wyandots
President
Notable locations
New York
Fort Harmar
Virginia
the Miami
the Wabash
United States
the Ohio
river
portage
Miami village
frontier
Notable items
Wyandots
appoint persons
inform them of the result of the treaty
desisting from further hostilities
some effect in producing the late tranquility
claim of the Wyandot nation to the lands reserved to the Shawanese was strongly insisted upon by them
article of the treaty
consent
kept in remembrance
inserted at the bottom
memorandum
Cherokees incorporated with them
continue to give us trouble
driven out of the country
right of conquest
continued their depredations
post
command the greatest parts of the Indian trade
Congress might approve of such a measure
inland
contest with the Indians who live there
ungovernableness of their young men
receiving a garrison peaceably
reason why the treaties were made separately
Six Nations
westerly tribes
jealousy that subsisted
appearing to consider them as one people
general confederacy is entirely broken
deadly variance
great length of time that elapsed
appointed periods for the meetings
increased the expence in the article of provisions
utmost possible economy
whole of the business
settlement
meet annoyances
disturbed during the winter
Chiefs of the nations
rivers which empy themselves
ill disposed
several nations
last Congress did not assemble
submit the minutes of the proceedings at the different meetings after the Nations were assembled
appendix
letters and messages
communicated to the Secretary at War
considerable parts of the transactions
instructions
directed to endeavor at extending the north boundary as far north as the completion of the forty first degree of North Latitude
comprehend
attempt to extend the limits
settling a peace with them
boundaries remain as settled at the former Treaties
rectifying an error about the portage at the Miami village
negociation
tedious and troublesome
unpromising aspect
attended with consequences friendly to the frontier parts
Treaties concluded in pursuance of the instructions received from Congress
several of the Indian nations
severity of the winter which rendered the communication by the Ohio for a long time impracticable

